Moving On to the Afterlife

If a person is brutally murdered, is it harder for them to move on to the afterlife (or to the light)?

I am concerned because a lifelong friend of mine recently lost her daughter. Her daughter was only 21 years old and she was brutally murdered.

Thank you for your help.

Asked by Cherry Taylor

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37 Comments
  1. Hi Cherry Taylor

    That is terrible! Poor girl. Poor friend!

    Ok! To answer your question, here are a number of things which might hold someone back from going into the light:

    1. guilty conscience
    2. shock! (Do not realise they are dead)
    3. requires answers
    4. wants revenge
    5. unfinished business here on earth

    However, even someone who dies suddenly from a violent act, such as your friends daughter, will still be able to go into the light just as easily as every other soul provided they have nothing holding them back here on earth.

    Does your friend feel that her daughter is stuck here as an earthbound spirit? If so, what makes her think that?

    If your friend does think that, then maybe she should talk to her daughter, to try and convince her that going into the light to be healed is for the best, otherwise the poor girl will be in torment and no one wants her to suffer like that – especially after what she’d been through already.

    AJ
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    • Hello AJ, very good answer.

      Hello Cherry,

      I am so sorry that this happened to your friend. It’s lovely that you want to be there in support of her!

      If your friend’s daughter is earthbound she will be close to her family and trying to communicate with them, so they will be feeling miserable, or frightened, or dreaming of her in all sorts of painful ways .. and it would show on their faces, apart from anything else. I would be wondering why the grandmother is worried her granddaugther is earthbound .. was it something the younger woman was doing that might have got her into trouble? We all need answers when someone dies suddenly, or in such a painful way.

      Wishing you a peaceful weekend,
      Love & Peace
      Ama Nazra (listed here under Friends)

  2. AJ, thank you for your reply and your suggestion. My friend has not yet expressed concern to me, personally, that she feels her daughter’s spirit is earthbound. My friend’s mother spoke to me briefly recently, and expressed some concerns. I wanted to ask and be prepared to help them when/if the need arises.
    Thank you,
    Cherry

  3. Sherry,

    According the bible, your friend’s daughter is sleeping in the grave until the resurrection meaning one day she will wake up when she hears the voice of God and rise out of the grave according to the biblical scriptures.

    JOHN 5:25-29 – Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in THE WHICH ALL THAT ARE IN THE GRAVES SHALL HEAR HIS VOICE, 29AND SHALL COME FORTH; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

    DANIEL 12:2 – And many of them that SLEEP IN THE DUST OF THE EARTH shall awake to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

    ACTS 24:15 – And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there be a RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD, both of the just and unjust.

    EPHESIANS 5:14 – Wherefore he saith, AWAKE THOU THAT SLEEPEST, and ARISE FROM THE DEAD, and Christ shall give thee light.

    The Word of God further gives an example by stating that King David is still in his sepulcher or grave waiting for the resurrection.

    ACTS 2:29 & 34 – Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulcher is with us unto this day. For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand.

    No man cannot repent after death or accept Jesus as their savior. If you rejected Jesus in life, he will reject you before God. After death there is only judgment meaning you will be judged according to your works.

    Hebrews 9:27 – And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

    The Book of Revelation says that all men will be judged according to how they lived. Everything you do is recorded in God’s Holy Books and it is out of these books you will be judged.

    REVELATIONS 20:12-13 – And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of lie; and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

    Therefore, Sherry at this present time your friend’s daughter who died so violently is asleep in the grave waiting to hear the voice of God and then she will rise out of the grave and stand before God and be judged like us all. She is not in any pain, nor does she know what is going on in the land of living because the bible states the DEAD knows NOTHING. The dead is NOT in some place waiting to move on. They are asleep i.e. dead.

    ECCLESIASTES 9:10 – Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for THERE IS NO WORK, NOR DEVICE, NOR KNOWLEDGE, NOR WISDOM, IN THE GRAVE, WHIETHER THOU GOEST.

    ECCLESIASTES 9:5-6 – For the living know that they shall die: But THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANYTHING, neither have they any more a reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Also there love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in any thing that is done under the sun.

    • Hi K Smith,

      I might be wrong, but I think you answered on another question site here in TGT that you came to answer questions and not to drown us in the gospel? While I love the bible, I think that one or two of your quotes above would have been enough to get your message across, or perhaps a list of the quotes by chapter and verse, rather than every word of them, with shouting, so people could choose to open their bibles themselves. Otherwise they will just scroll straight on past them, which really defeats the purpose.

      But let me finish with a quote: Matthew 6:7

      Love & Peace
      Ama

    • Hi K Smith

      Well – that is what the Jehovah’s believe certainly, but that theory is only a comfort if you happen to be a JW or similar who take the Bible literally.

      I do, however, have some grave concerns about the following:

      Your comment: No man cannot repent after death or accept Jesus as their savior. If you rejected Jesus in life, he will reject you before God. After death there is only judgment meaning you will be judged according to your works.

      My question: Why would Jesus reject you?? What happened to forgiveness?? Jesus was all about forgiveness and compassion. So, why has he changed? (in your opinion).

      AJ
      x

      • Hmmm… AJ .. I just read, yesterday, on a Catholic webpages, that men (and presumable women?) ‘can’ repent after death, if they ‘want it’ bad enough. It seems the Catholics comforted themselves with the thought that, although the person never expressed the desire to be ‘baptised’ while alive, they actually really yearned for it and God saw that and gave it to them after they died. Not sure if I should smile here, but I am considering giggling.

        Well, fits my belief that everyone goes to heaven. :-)

        Love & Peace
        Ama

        • I have known Catholics who “prayed the dead out of purgatory” A person dies and if they have enough friends who will pray for them they can be forgiven and allowed into heaven – something like that. I dont know if all Catholics believe that way but many I have known did

          • Morning Caretaker, :-)

            Do you think people are ‘awake’ when they are in purgatory? (In comparison to sleeping when they are dead?) Hmm.. (hehe) :-)

            They can be prayed out, and according to the Catholics, bought out of purgatory too .. or worse, bought out before they even die? Pay the church enough and you can guarantee heaven???

            I am not a believer in ‘buy your way in’ (indulgences), nor ‘death bed confessions’. If you have been a bad person in life, you are going to have to (pay) balance your karma once you get Home.

            Life is grand :-)
            Love & Peace
            Ama

        • Hi Ama

          Yep! I’m inclined to believe the same as that Catholic webpage you refered to.

          To add to that, I also believe it is us who choose ‘punishment’ after death, not God and certainly not Satan. When we die, we become spiritually ‘hightened’ or ‘more aware’ to the point that things which may have seemed perfectly acceptable behaviour to us during our lifetime are suddenly viewed quite differently and with more clarity upon our death. But, souls are only ‘punished’ if they desire it – if that individual thinks they deserve it. God forgives us for our sins (repent) but, alas, we are not so good at forgiving ourselves. This is why I believe some souls end up in ‘purgatory’ – it is because that is where THEY think they deserve to be.

          Being judged by your own conscience can be a very harsh (self) punishment indeed!

          AJ
          x

          • Hey AJ,

            I don’t believe that a person who has never expressed a love for God, or a desire to know God in life, has changed their mind just because someone else ‘thinks’ they have. That is one person imposing ‘their’ beliefs on a person who cannot argue back, and is more likely that someone desperately trying to conquer their own fears of God and what comes after we die.

            Heck, no. But I do believe that once we die and, and our ego dies with us, and we touch the energy of heaven, the ‘call’ to God comes back good and strong!

            The rest of your comment I utterly agree with.

            Love & Peace
            Ama

      • Hi Ama

        I don’t know much about the intricacies of the Catholic Faith – not being one, myself – LOL! But the Anglican Church believe we all go to Heaven first off, then get ‘judged’ on our conduct during our lifetime to see where we go next!

        This way of thinking seems to be the main problem, regards earthbound spirit – they think judgement will send them in hell. They don’t want to go there, so they don’t go to God either. Unfortunately, the result is, they end up being stuck in their “own hell on earth” (to quote Jesse Healey – the spook I lived with for 5 years. Poor bugger!!! So glad we managed to open the doors to Heaven for him in the end.)

        Yep! God welcomes all – whatever their belief – whatever name they know Him by. Even the Atheist’s are welcomed home (that’ll be my other half then!!?).

        AJ
        x

        • Hi AJ,

          My grandma really wanted me to be Angilican. She nagged me into it. It only took me 29 years to get around to changing from Methodist, and she ‘left’ me 10 weeks before I was confirmed. She’d been dead 37 years by then, but that made no difference. I think she was prepared to stay forever if necessary. LOL

          The rest of your message I agree with. So many folks wouldn’t go near heaven because they expected to be judged and sent to hell. The Christian God has been given a really bad reputation …

          And lost souls ‘do’ create their own reality – a bubble of energy around them in which they repeat and repeat the events that keep them trapped here on the earth plane. Folks like AJ and I can break through the bubble and help them see a ‘different’ picture, and that helps them cross over, with a lot of love and care.

          Love & Peace
          Ama

      • AJ Ryder,

        I am NOT a Jehovah’s Witness nor am I affiliated with them.

        Question 1: Why would Jesus reject you??

        If you are an unrepentant sinner who refuses to acknowledge Jesus Christ before men and stop your sinful and evil ways then Jesus will reject you. If you refuse to turn away from your wicked and sinful ways then God will also reject you.

        Matthew 10:33 – But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

        Ezekiel 33:11 – As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

        Do you think people who openly reject, ridicule and war against God and Jesus will spend eternity with them. The answer is no. People who openly deny Jesus and reject him will be judged.

        Psalm 9:17 – The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

        Romans 6:23 – For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

        The following persons all have rejected Jesus publicly. Jesus has not rejected them.

        Woody Allen, Andy Richter, Mikhail Gorbachev, Spalding Gray, Seth Green, Stephen Hawking, Hugh Hefner, Monica Lewinsky, G. Gordon Liddy, Bill Maher Dalai Lama, David Duchovny, Patrick Duffy, Danny Elfman, Sean Penn, Roman Polanski, George Clooney, Bob Geldof etc….. http://www.celebatheists.com/?title=Main_Page

        QUESTION 2 – What happened to forgiveness?? Jesus was all about forgiveness and compassion.

        Jesus is still all about compassion and forgiveness. But remember now there are those who deny and hate Jesus. Some people just do not want Jesus compassion, love, his forgiveness or his salvation. They take pleasure in doing evil and cannot bear Jesus. I will end by saying that Jesus has not changed.

        Hebrews 13:8 – Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

        • Hi K Smith

          Thanks for your reply.

          I am not a Christian. I do not follow Jesus in the religious sense of the word. But then, nor do I hate or reject Jesus because he was a great prophet, just like the other great prophets. There is much we can learn about God and ourselves from all the great Prophets. That said, I am just not a Christian because I don’t agree with most of the Christian theology.

          I do, however, love, trust and follow God. I try to do my best for God, in His name. I believe that God loves me too. I believe He loves me as He loves any other person – no matter what their beliefs. He loves me so much He won’t reject me or deny me when my time comes. Why? Because I have never turned my back on Him, no matter what life has thrown at me (and life as dealt me some pretty [email protected] cards in the past) rather, those times have made my relationship with God stronger and so, I do His bidding when he asks me to, without question.

          Just because I do not acknowledge Jesus Christ before men, does not make me an unrepentant sinner. God will be my Judge – not Jesus.

          AJ
          x

          • AJ Ryder

            The only way to God is through Jesus Christ. No one can go to God without going through Jesus because he is the ONLY mediator between God and man.

          • This is the end of that. We can discuss the topic but if you want to type or copy and paste few thousand words preaching your message then that is out. This is not your pulpit, Pardon me for being so blunt about it but I really get tired of your type who comes to the site to hijack everything they can to preach their own personal religious message. It aint happening.

          • Hi K Smith

            (quote)The only way to God is through Jesus Christ. No one can go to God without going through Jesus because he is the ONLY mediator between God and man.(qquote)

            If that is what you believe then that is your perogative. But, just because YOU believe it to be true, DOES NOT make it the truth.

            AJ
            x

  4. K. Smith, I appreciate your response to my question, and I certainly respect your right to your beliefs. However, my beliefs differ a bit from yours. I do believe in God and Jesus, though I don’t necessairly believe that everyone is asleep in their grave.
    As I was reading your post Luke 23:39-43 came to my mind. The thief on the cross who asks Jesus to remember him, and Jesus says “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.
    Thank you,
    Cherry

    • I agree with you on that. The ghost of Samuel was NOT asleep and in his grave when the witch of Endor called on him

      • Probably the reverse, CT, because he ‘woke up’ really cranky. LOL Lack of sleep really bugs me. :-)

        Love & Peace
        Ama

      • Care Taker,

        There are some people who did not see death in the bible like Elijah and Enoch but the does not say they are wondering the earth. Elijah was taken directly to heaven in a chariot of fire.

        However, Samuel was dead for a long time and was buried at Ramah. God in his infinite mercy permitted a witch to call up the REAL Samuel from the grave.

        1 Samuel 25:1 And Samuel died; and all the Israelites were gathered together, and lamented him, and buried him in his house at Ramah. And David arose, and went down to the wilderness of Paran

        King Saul wanted to contact the dead Samuel because God had rejected him for being disobedient.

        I Samuel 28:6-7 – And when Saul enquired of the Lord, the Lord answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets. Then said Saul unto his
        Servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and
        Enquire of her. And his servants said unto him, Behold, there is a woman that
        hath a familiar spirit at Endor.

        So King Saul sought out a witch who had a familiar spirit i.e. DEMON to contact the dead Samuel.

        1 Samuel 28:9 – And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die?

        However, in a very rare case God allowed the witch to call up the REAL Samuel to speak with King Saul and not some demonic spirit who would have pretended to be Samuel. The witch did her thing but was horrified by the results when the REAL Samuel appeared when Saul saw the witch’s fear, he asked her what she saw.

        1 Samuel 28;12 – And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul:

        The witch was deathly afraid because God had truly permitted her to awaken the prophet of God from death and allowed him to return to the earth. When Samuel appeared to both Saul and the witch, he asked the question:-

        I Samuel 28:15 – And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring
        me up?……..

        Samuel wanted to know why Saul had disquieted him…. meaning why did he bother to bring him up from the grave.

        If Samuel had died and gone to straight heaven, he would have asked Saul why did you bring me down from heaven but this was not the case because Samuel was not in heaven but asleep in the grave. Samuel did not ask Saul why did he call him from purgatory because he was not in purgatory.

        The witch at Endor clearly stated that Samuel COMETH UP…as in rising from the grave.

        1 Samuel 28:14 – And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An
        Old man COMETH UP; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that is was Samuel, and he stopped with his face to the ground and bowed himself.

        • You have not persuaded me. I am already well familiar with the scriptures you presented and to me they are very strong evidence that the Bible does not say in any fashion that ghosts are demons – that is an idea that came from some persons mind and not from the Bible.

          • Caretaker,

            When a person dies, the body is placed in the grave where it turns back into dust and the spirit of man returns to God who created it, where it remains until the resurrection. Mankind has NO POWER or control over his spirit body. God controls ALL things and the God I know will NOT allow the spirits of dead people to wander the earth visiting their living family members.

            The bible clearly states that the dead KNOW NOTHING. If dead people cannot think, see, hear or communicate with the living. Then who do you suppose has the power and ability to shape shift and masquerade as dead people. The only creatures on this planet that has this ability are fallen angels i.e. evil spirits, familiar spirits, wicked spirits etc

            ECCLESIASTES 9:10 – Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for THERE IS NO WORK, NOR DEVICE, NOR KNOWLEDGE, NOR WISDOM, IN THE GRAVE, WHIETHER THOU GOEST.

            ECCLESIASTES 9:5-6 – For the living know that they shall die: But THE DEAD KNOW NOT ANYTHING, neither have they any more a reward, for the memory of them is forgotten. Also there love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in any thing that is done under the sun.

            Let me rephrase………Familiar Spirits are fallen angels who have the ability to shape shift and masquerade as dead people. This is why King Saul sought out the witch, she had a powerful devil i.e. fallen angel that she consulted and conjured up when needed.

            Leviticus 20:6 – And the soul that turneth after such as have FAMILIAR SPIRITS, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.

            2 Kings 21:6 – And he made his son pass through the fire, and observed times, and used enchantments, and dealt with FAMILIAR SPIRITS and wizards: he wrought much wickedness in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

          • The bible clearly states that the dead KNOW NOTHING.Yet there are stories and cases in that very same Bible where the dead DID know something.

            “When a person dies, the body is placed in the grave where it turns back into dust and the spirit of man returns to God who created it, where it remains until the resurrection.” That is your belief but many Churches who follow the same Bible see it differently. Some say we go to Heaven, others say we go to sleep, others say we go to Abraham’s bosom, others say and on and on and on.

            I could also list scriptures here to show my points but instead I will just let those who are interested look them up and learn for themselves.

        • Hi guys,

          Samuel 28:15 .. according to my understanding of the time before Jesus redeemed us all, Samuel was probably in hell .. so ‘coming up’ (raising again to the higher vibration of the human level) might also mean that. Saul asked the witch to ‘consult a spirit’, but there is no mention of her consulting one before Samuel appeared, or having a familiar, or talking to a demon. Instead my bible says the witch called Samuel ‘a divine being’ as he appeared. People add in bits to the bible, or imagine things and make their own interpretations, and some translations of the bible are very inaccurate. This NOAB of mine is supposed to be the most accurate translation of the Hebrew current to 2006 when I bought it for my Theology degree, so I’ll go with Saul talking to a ‘divine being’.

          I love the ‘very rare case’ comment .. K Smith allows that ‘real’ spirits ‘can’ be spoken to, which contradicts people’s general statements that they can’t be ‘because they don’t exist’.

          The ‘all spirits are demons’ attitude I have met before, in various churches. I feel sorry for the people’s parents and other loved ones, when a spirit has tried to get through to them to tell them its not like that in heaven. The living end up very confused. I know this for a fact from the large number of people who have written to me privately over the years, searching for some hope for their newly passed over family (including a few just recently thanks to TGT), and the living are having dreams of their ‘happy’ passed-over relatives, when they think they should be in hell? Everybody benefits when the person changes their mind and allows that their visions, sensations, experiences, thoughts and dreams, might actually be the person that they have lost.

          K Smith, I am not sure which God you know, but the God I know created me as a medium and spirit rescuer (I have known I would do this my entire life .. from a tiny child) .. to help the lost souls who ‘wander’ the earth .. human beings who are terrified of judgment, or died in shock, fear or pain (among many other reasons), and didn’t go ‘straight to God’. They are not demons. They are lost people .. yes, their bodies have gone back to ‘the dust from which we were created’ (Genesis), but they were only supposed to be temporary coverings anyway … and I am a God loving, and a Jesus following, Spiritualist Christian .. for want of a more accurate description.

          I agree, some fallen angel might look like humans, but only to create mischief. A person learns to recognise them quickly enough. I’ve seen my share. It’s all part of my calling.

          And for familiars .. sometimes they can be nature spirits, or beings created specific to certain tasks (daemon, AJ?). What they are, I believe, is a being that channels and enhances the will of the living person. They might not do anything at all, except help the person feel more powerful .. I don’t know for sure. I don’t have anything to do with witchcraft .. perhaps someone else can answer that? Yes, they might even be (created) demons, but usually only if the witch is practising black magic – and I do hope they don’t. Untangling that mess is a challenge at times. I have never heard of a fallen angel demeening itself enough to simply act as a familiar .. their egos are way too powerful for something as petty as that.

          As for who Jesus/God will reject or not .. we have to remember John 8:7 (sinless people throwing rocks). We are ‘known’ by our actions, and when we are not loving towards other people, we are not following Jesus’ request to ‘love one another, as I have loved you’ .. and he loved everyone, regardless of whether they believed in God or not. Oh yes, Jesus wanted everyone to believe in God, so do I actually, but .. Jesus never wrote a gospel, so his being the only way to God .. we only have John’s testimony on that, written probably about 40 years after Jesus died (presumably by one of his students from who recorded John’s preaching). Personally, I go straight to God too. I also talk to Jesus, and my angels.

          I appreciate your fear for our immortal souls, K Smith, and why you write what you do. It’s ok, we have them in hand ourselves. God gave us all free will, to follow ‘him’ or not. If we find hell, it will be our own hells .. you probably won’t see us there. It will be a great party, since most of the planet will also be there, given that most of them are not Christian.

          On that lighter note, I shall sign off,
          Love & Peace
          Ama Nazra (LOL) :-)

  5. Hello Ama

    The grandmother pulled me aside to speak privately about her granddaughter. She is convinced (and I believe her) that her granddaughter has visited her on 3 occasions. The reason for the visit is what the grandmother questions.

    The murderer has been caught and is in jail awaiting trial. The grandmother thinks because her granddaughter visited her, that someone else was involved. I did try to explain that the visit was perhaps, just to say “goodbye”, “I love you”.

    Thank you very much. I appreciate your responses Caretaker, A.J., and Ama.

    Cherry

    • HI Cherry

      Don’t mean to butt into your reply to Ama … (well – I do actually LOL!) … but may i ask a question?

      Is the grandmother psychically aware? Meaning, is she sensitive to spirit and energy changes, and treats it like an everyday, normal occurance? Or, had she been totally unaware of this ability prior to the visitations?

      It may seem an odd question, but I believe the answer might have a baring on why the grandmother is being visited by the grand-daughter.

      You are, of course, probably right and the daughter may be visiting just to let everyone know (via the grandmother) that she is ok. But, what troubles me, is that this is causing the grandmother anxiety.

      May I suggest you and the grandmother sit down quietly and say a prayer for the daughter, next time you meet up? The grandmother is obviously worried about the wellbeing of her grand-daughter’s soul so, if nothing else, this may well put the grandmothers mind at rest.

      Going back to the killer/s – obviously I don’t know the background but, is there a chance someone else could be involved? If so, is it something which might come out in court? Would the person who’s currently in jail for the murder get a lesser sentence if they start dropping others in it??

      Either way, you are a very good friend to have. I wish you all, all the best and you will be in my prayers.

      AJ
      x

      • Hello A.J.

        I honestly don’t know if the grandmother is psychically aware. She didn’t hesitate at all to explain the encounters and voice her concerns to me.

        It didn’t seem odd to me that you asked the question. I believe I understand why you asked.

        A.J., thank you for the suggestion that I pray with the grandmother. It is a wonderful idea, I wish I had thought of it at that time. I will do what you suggest, I’m sure she will want to. I believe it will help ease her fears.

        About the killer/s, as it stands now the prosecution is going to seek the death penality. So, the one in jail would not get a lesser sentence if another person was involved. I know the police are looking into the matter.

        Thank you, for your prayers. You will be in mine also.

        Cherry

    • Hi Cherry,

      Do you know what the grandmother actually saw in those visits? Apart from the ‘other person’ aspect? Or what the emotions of the girl were? I would not like her to end up a lost soul.

      AJ’s idea is very good. Next time you see the lady site down and pray with her, to help the girl cross over safely. She doesn’t need to be here for other people to find any other villain and bring him/her to justice.

      Love & Peace
      Ama

      • Hello Ama

        I hope I can describe this properly. The grandmother said she first heard a sound “like tapping” “three times”, and she kept following the sounds at first but couldn’t locate the origin. Then she told me she felt her granddaughter was there with her. The grandmother told me she spoke out loud to her granddaughter and asked her to tap again if it was her.
        She told me she heard the sounds again. This has happened on three different occassions. She said she felt the granddaughter was trying to tell her something, then brought up “the other person”.

        Ama, I honestly feel that the “other person aspect” maybe the grandmother’s fear. But that is just my “gut feeling”. Of course, I most certainly could be wrong.

        I am going to call my friend and ask that we go visit in the next couple of days. I can pray with the grandmother and ask if she has had any more visits.

        Thank you very much for your help.

        Cherry

        • You are welcome, Cherry, please keep us posted.

          (isn’t that an odd saying LOL)

          Love & Peace
          Ama

  6. Hi Cherry

    How are things going? (Seems we all got a bit pre-occupied with K Smith’s postings!)

    AJ
    x

  7. Hello A.J., Ama, and CareTaker.

    I apologize that it has taken me so long to get back with you. I will give you an update.

    The grandmother had eye surgery a few days ago. She developed some complications and probally won’t be physically better for 3 or 4 more days. I contacted my friend and I told her I wanted to ride down with her to visit when the grandmother is feeling better.

    I also explained my reasons. I told her I wanted the three of us to pray for her daughter/granddaughter to help and make sure she has peace and has moved on. My friend’s eyes shined with tears but also with relief.

    I will update you after we say the prayers. Thank you for all your help.

    Cherry

    • Thank you Cherry, you are obviously a lovely person.

      Love & Peace
      Ama

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