Your story may be true to an extent, I’m also 100% positive ILKERL is NOT an anagram for a killer, it is in fact, gibberish letters.

Tell me how paradise is translated into heaven?? Plus I clearly stated that I gave TWO beliefs on what happens after death, not just one. Besides what gives you the impression that Jesus was speaking literally that he would go to as you say heaven right after death? He did not state WHEN he would be in “paradise” just that he WOULD be. So if I said “I’ll be in San Antonio with my family” does that mean right away, or just at some point in the future?

John 10:10 says :” The thief does not come unless it is to steal and slay and destroy. I have come that they might have life and might have it in abundance” – How does that translate into hell???

2 Thessalonians 1: 5 – 8: “This is a proof of the righteous judgement of God, leading to your being counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which you are indeed suffering. This takes into account that it is righteous on God’s part to repay tribulation to those who make tibulations for you, but to you who suffer tribulation, relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels in a flaming fire, as he brings vengence upon those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.” – Again no mention of any hell

I’ll leave your quote for Matt. 13: 42 & 50 it’s accurate enough for my point. If you read prior to that verse (verse 40 & 41), it is referencing them being destroyed as you would destroy weeds. A direct quote would be this: (verse 40: Therefore just as the weeds are collected and burned with fire so it will be in the conclusion of the system of things).

Matthew 25:30: “And throw the good-for-nothing slave out into the darkness outside. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be.” – Funny I see no mention of hell here either.

I never stated I was or was not a believer of anything, I stated my view of the board, does that mean I promote it’s use? Not really I find it a waste of $20 and time but I’m not paranoid of it, which in turns gives it much more power than it truly has.

Now as for thinking for ourselves, I never said we shouldn’t rely on our god (whoever it may be), I said we need to seek the truth for ourselves and not be led blindly. I seek truth in all faith, but I also believe in God. Sadly the bible is a poor source for knowing God’s word, but when you can sift out the lies from the facts things become a lot clearer.

First off, Luke 23:43 says “I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise”, this is when Jesus is speaking to the criminal upon their crucifixion. Being in paradise does not mean being amongst the Earth, are loved ones are not on Earth but in paradise as JESUS says. No matter what your belief, the dead do not contact the living. The dead cannot contact the living, nor do they know what the living are doing. They are dead. Their thoughts have perished (Psalm 146:4). The dead do not contact the living for the umpteenth time!

Your theory on Hell is absolutely incorrect in that the devil’s job is to “steal, kill and destroy” (St. John 10:10), what better place to destroy a spirit than in Hell; Hell is described as: “A place of suffering, affliction and retribution” (2 Thessalonians 1:5-8) and “Weeping and gnashing of teeth” Matthew 13:42,50; 25:30). Hell is a real place!!! Its no imaginary place where you do not exist, you will be tortured as the Word says, you must read!

Contrary to what you said, how can you say that Lucifer did not become Satan before the Garden of Eden was created, there is no scriptural evidence to support your claim! Angels were created before humans and thus this transition could have very well happened long before Adam and Eve. In Job 38:7 the Lord told Job at the creation of the world “the morning stars (angels) sang together, and all the angels shouted for joy”. This means that demons could very well have existed before Adam and Eve were created! I’m not saying that I’m 100% correct on this but there is certainly no scripture that rules out this possibility. With this being said, how did you come up with these “misconceptions”? Are they your own fallible beliefs or that of the infallible Word of God?

“The Ouija board is no more dangerous than a loaded gun. Meaning that if you KNOW how to use it, KNOW how to be safe & KNOW to respect it, then knock yourself out using it.” !!!! How can you say this as a believer of God’s Word (which you appear to be)? You must read Galatians 5:10-20 and Revelations 21:8, these acts of witchcraft are forbidden! As a believer you must be the light of the World (Matthew 5:14) and not promote this wicked behavior, Jesus didn’t say “Well its okay to do witchcraft if ye know what ye are doing”! No, there are no exceptions, witchcraft is forbidden for all through God’s command.

Furthermore, we should not always think for ourselves as you claim, “Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and LEAN NOT UNTO THINE OWN UNDERSTANDING” (Proverbs 3:5), we must think according to God’s Word, for the ways of men are myopic and unintelligent. You too must sort out the lies from the truth, I’m not saying that I’m perfect either though. For it is a life long journey to do so.

many thanks for your comments, much appreciated. If you permit I will tell you what my belief (Islam) says about beings other than Humans.

God has also created Djinns, Angels and maybe other beings which we do not know about. Djinns are beings made of smokeless fire and cannot always be seen by humans, they can be either good or bad. The bad Djinns are known to help Satan, the good do all they can to protect Humans.

The bad Djinns can take the form of anything they wish (with God’s permission). It is also to test our faith and resolve. Many stories I have heard in the Eastern part of the world (Pakistan, India and Arab region) regarding ghosts etc. Wise people say it is the work of Djinns, unwise believe in superstition. These Djinns I believe are going about in the images of ghosts of relatives etc. After all when people die, they never can be contacted again, nor can they contact us. It is the bad Djinns who commit these atrocities with Ouija boards, Mediums, etc.

The call to prayer in Islam (called Azaan) has always worked in repelling all evil and misfortunes.

I say to all people keep faith, regardless of what you believe and always remember that God created Satan etc, so seeking refuge in God will always help. After all God can destroy these evil beings.

Many thanks for reading my comment. I look forward to any replies.

First off to correct a misconception here from Dave, NO ONE (not even your great grandmother whom loved everyone) is in heaven. According to the bible only when God completes armageddon will he even glance at the Book of Life to (at this point the next line depends on your faith, I’ll list the 2 main beliefs), call the souls of those listed in the book that have died calling them to heaven in service of the almighty. he will summon the 144,000 souls to heaven to rule at his side, the rest who have their name in the book of life will either still be alive or brought back to live their eternal life on earth for 1000yrs, at which time he will release Satan for x amount of years at the end of that era he will destroy satan for good.

So that means our loved ones are in fact still here on earth, does that mean we can contact them? That depends on your belief, some believe yes their soul is alive, others believe when you die your soul dies with you and only God can bring that soul back.

Second misconception by Dave, the idea that Satan wants you to be in hell, luckily there is no eternal damnation of a fire and brimestone world anywhere, hell does exist yes, but hell is simply you no longer exist (i.e. DEAD), meaning when you die and you are no longer in existence that is hell (everyone goes to hell, those in the book of life are brought back).

Third misconception by Dave, the devil did NOT in fact already exist in the garden of eden, Adam & Eve lived for many years prior to satan questioning God’s laws. Only when he disobeyed God and was banished from Heaven did he become the devil. Yet demons as stated in the bible (Dave’s source) are fallen angels, angels DID NOT fall before satan did, so how can Dave say demons existed PRIOR to the garden of eden??

** Though I do believe demons existed prior to us, as did angels….both predate God & Satan **

Now for Jake: The Ouija board is no more dangerous than a loaded gun. Meaning that if you KNOW how to use it, KNOW how to be safe & KNOW to respect it, then knock yourself out using it. Many many many people claim it’s evil, it does this, it does that…….but there is NO evidence other than word of mouth (usually in the form of “my friends friend/cousin/sister/mother/grandparent/etc used it and it did to them and they died/are in a coma/whatever it may be) that the board DOES ANYTHING remotely evil. Can you contact something nasty? Yep you sure can, is it something you should do? Probably not (would you give your loaded gun to the guy robbing you?? Sure you can but not a smart thing to do).

Next misconception: How to get rid of the board…..simple (requires 3 maybe 4 steps), Step 1: Put the board and supplies back in its box. Step 2: Walk to your outside trash cans. Step 3: Open lid to trash can (if not already open). Step 4: Place box in trash. Step 5: Close lid.

Last misconception: Matty..(revision of statement: devils personal gateway to Hades) ….biblically speaking satan is not in hell, he is here on earth where he fell to. Bible also states Satan has dominion of this system (this world), so that again means he is here on earth. If you take the time to look around and see the world around you, it is obvious that he is here in our world influencing on a daily basis. So that would in turn mean his demons are also here in our world. So using a ouija board is not something that he would need to “contact you”.

Now for Ahmed: I am actually shocked with myself, I do agree with your last statement 100%:
“Seeking refuge in God does help repel them. Regardless of what religion / belief you follow, seeking refuge in a spiritual being does help.” It’s refreshing to see some here that are able to think for themselves and sort out the lies from the truth.

Agree with Jake.

I would like to say first of all that I am muslim. I respect all the comments made here and agree with the Caretaker about demons etc.

Islam teaches me that, yes there are beings which are different to humans. These are called Djinns. They can manifest in any appearance they desire. They even sometimes imitate the dead. Seeking refuge in God does help repel them. Regardless of what religion / belief you follow, seeking refuge in a spiritual being does help.