Comments on: Deceived and Tormented by Demons http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/ Ghost Stories & Paranormal Encounters Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:42:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Shelley http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38998 Shelley Mon, 01 Nov 2010 16:37:09 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38998 I saw the link that the Caretaker of this site left me, referring me to the real story of Annaliese Michel, and as I understood before, it said in there that she did claim that Mary came to her and gave her two options. This is what I was referring to before but you wrote and said that there was no mention of Mary in the real story, but there is, if what I read was true. Like I said before, I was using those two movies as 'examples'. I wasn't basing any facts on them. I speak of my own experiences and so to cause people to have a type of understanding about what I'm trying to explain, I have referred to those two movies. In real life (as opposed to postings on this site) when I have tried to explain my story to others, a real vague look comes onto their faces or confused or whatever and they almost look at me like I'm crazy, but as soon as I asked them questions like: 'Did you see 'A Beautiful Mind?' the movie? and did you see 'The Exorcism of Emily Rose?' All of a sudden, the expressions on their faces change and they're like, 'oh - right;' and they instantly get what I'm trying to tell them. It's like they've just entered a 'portal of understanding' and I don't have to take so much time explaining everything. They've already got the example in their head about what I'm trying to tell them and it's like then, 'oh right - so something like that happened to you, too,' kind of thing. They instantly seem to understand what I mean. I don't have to explain myself so much. The evil spirits were coming to me throughout the years as Mary, Jesus, God, the Holy Ghost, Angels, famous people, good spirits, people I knew etc. I never doubted that what and who I was seeing was real but of course they all had me fooled. I was deceived. Mary, Jesus, God, Angels, the Holy Ghost - they were all hoaxes - easily portrayed by evil spirits. As these things went on throughout the years, I couldn't help but analyze what was happening to me - even though I was busy analyzing their lies and concoctions. There are patterns that I can't help but see. Evil spirits are alot like the New World Order. They cause strife in disguise, then come out posing as Saviours with supposed solutions. I draw similarities from the two movies because I saw the patterns in them. The same type of patterns I experienced. I bring them up to save time, actually, explaining myself more. If you read other comments here, you will see that others have experienced similar or the same things as I have, or vice-versa. This proves once again, that evil spirits have a pattern or patterns that they can't help but follow. It's working for them. I posted my general experience with them kind of to say, hey you know, this kind of thing happens and you're not crazy - you were just deceived, and yes, it's disappointing and frustrating and upsetting, but you can get through it. We're stronger than they are. Annao, if reading these posts upset you, then stop reading them. Your last response to me was like you were responding to some post I'd never even written. Are you actually reading what I've written, or are you instantly translating what you've seen me write into what you'd actually prefer that I said? Just to recap, student; let me just go over the similarities - or would they be 'patterns?' A Beautiful Mind: Unseen people conversed with him on a regular basis and he believed them to be real and in this dimension. [Unseen people conversed with me on a regular basis and I believed them to be real but mostly they were in the other dimension or my dreams but atleast twice they appeared to me as in this dimension - at other times I could see them whilst wide awake and alot of times, could see them with eyes shut. Yaddah, the list goes on. What unseen people conversed with him about, influenced him and he responded with this and that action. [Tick to that, too.] [Yawn.] Ok, I'm going to move on now, but yes, he was a very smart person. Next: 'The Exorcism of Emily Rose' (I didn't actually want to see this movie but I made myself watch the video just to see how she dealt with it.) She was religious. So have I been. She would see people's faces changing, I would see them change enough. According to the real story of her (and I just discovered this particular fact yesterday, when I read it) that she was lead to believe by the evil spirits that she had to do penance - something lke that. I didn't understand about the 'atonement' as Christians believe in, so they got me there. I always thought that I had to pay for my own sins - somehow I didn't understand that principle or whatever you call it, and they milked it for all it was worth. They had me pretty much turned into a cross between a monk and a nun. I fasted every day for eleven and a half years. Every dream they sent me, I believed in. They wouldn't let me have any sleep or nap during the daytime, for years. They said that if I took a nap or rested just for a bit, or ate during the day, my daughter would be gang raped repeatedly, and I would be too, plus I would be murdered and my 'people' as they put it, would be destroyed. They showed me all that and how it would be done. I was too afraid to go against their instructions, but remember, I thought it was God telling me all that, but it wasn't. It was the evil spirits. In her true story, she felt a heaviness on her chest if I'm to remember correctly and some type of paralysis if I can remember. In my youth, I used to at times experience not being able to move whilst in bed. I would try to call out, but couldn't move my jaw. I found it so difficult to wake up and every time I thought I had woken up, I realised I was still asleep. I would eventually get up from my nightmare and go and see my parents. Eating something would help me to come out of it, but one time it was difficult getting up the stairs to my parents bedroom. I had to grab the rail and try to pull myself up. That time I went into my parents room and couldn't control myself as I swung my head around and moved around the room. I just wanted my parents to help me. Eventually, of course, it subsided. The evil spirits did also move the upper half of my body alot in latter years and did speak jibberish, mostly, through my mouth when nobody was around. These days, they still do that, but less. While I write this, they shake my head every now and then, and as usual, every time I kneel to pray, many times they still shake and move as much as possible, the top half of my body. It gets annoying, but I just keep on praying. There's alot I've left out, but I know that I never had it as bad as Annaliese Michel. She had an absolute extreme case. I never went to my death, although in the end they were leading up to me trying to commit suicide and I guess I was just waiting for their instructions. To cut a long story short, two main things happened to me in the end to cause me to begin realising that I had been duped for years by only the evil spirits. They started going a bit crazy themselves in the end and went overboard with their expectations of me - long story, but things were starting to get 'unbelievable' even for me. The second thing is, because of my anger at their expectations of me (never ceasing - 24 hours a day for years) I went against their advice on one thing and looked into something. I got a shock to find out the truth about that 'something' and asked myself: 'Why did God lie to me?' Remember, in the end, they told me that 'I' was God and that there were many Gods and multiple individuals of every person in many other dimensions. The story is complex and a bit confusing. From there on in, it was like a woolen jumper coming undone. Yes, I'm now using the analogy of a woolen jumper coming undone so that you can understand quite quickly what I am trying to explain. I was so thankful to realise that yes, there was that same righteous, sensible and strong God out there that I had come to learn about as I was growing up. What a relief. I saw the link that the Caretaker of this site left me, referring me to the real story of Annaliese Michel, and as I understood before, it said in there that she did claim that Mary came to her and gave her two options. This is what I was referring to before but you wrote and said that there was no mention of Mary in the real story, but there is, if what I read was true.

Like I said before, I was using those two movies as ‘examples’. I wasn’t basing any facts on them. I speak of my own experiences and so to cause people to have a type of understanding about what I’m trying to explain, I have referred to those two movies. In real life (as opposed to postings on this site) when I have tried to explain my story to others, a real vague look comes onto their faces or confused or whatever and they almost look at me like I’m crazy, but as soon as I asked them questions like: ‘Did you see ‘A Beautiful Mind?’ the movie? and did you see ‘The Exorcism of Emily Rose?’ All of a sudden, the expressions on their faces change and they’re like, ‘oh – right;’ and they instantly get what I’m trying to tell them. It’s like they’ve just entered a ‘portal of understanding’ and I don’t have to take so much time explaining everything. They’ve already got the example in their head about what I’m trying to tell them and it’s like then, ‘oh right – so something like that happened to you, too,’ kind of thing. They instantly seem to understand what I mean. I don’t have to explain myself so much.

The evil spirits were coming to me throughout the years as Mary, Jesus, God, the Holy Ghost, Angels, famous people, good spirits, people I knew etc. I never doubted that what and who I was seeing was real but of course they all had me fooled. I was deceived. Mary, Jesus, God, Angels, the Holy Ghost – they were all hoaxes – easily portrayed by evil spirits. As these things went on throughout the years, I couldn’t help but analyze what was happening to me – even though I was busy analyzing their lies and concoctions. There are patterns that I can’t help but see. Evil spirits are alot like the New World Order. They cause strife in disguise, then come out posing as Saviours with supposed solutions.

I draw similarities from the two movies because I saw the patterns in them. The same type of patterns I experienced. I bring them up to save time, actually, explaining myself more. If you read other comments here, you will see that others have experienced similar or the same things as I have, or vice-versa. This proves once again, that evil spirits have a pattern or patterns that they can’t help but follow. It’s working for them. I posted my general experience with them kind of to say, hey you know, this kind of thing happens and you’re not crazy – you were just deceived, and yes, it’s disappointing and frustrating and upsetting, but you can get through it. We’re stronger than they are.

Annao, if reading these posts upset you, then stop reading them. Your last response to me was like you were responding to some post I’d never even written. Are you actually reading what I’ve written, or are you instantly translating what you’ve seen me write into what you’d actually prefer that I said?

Just to recap, student; let me just go over the similarities – or would they be ‘patterns?’

A Beautiful Mind:

Unseen people conversed with him on a regular basis and he believed them to be real and in this dimension.
[Unseen people conversed with me on a regular basis and I believed them to be real but mostly they were in the other dimension or my dreams but atleast twice they appeared to me as in this dimension - at other times I could see them whilst wide awake and alot of times, could see them with eyes shut. Yaddah, the list goes on.

What unseen people conversed with him about, influenced him and he responded with this and that action.
[Tick to that, too.] [Yawn.]

Ok, I’m going to move on now, but yes, he was a very smart person.

Next:

‘The Exorcism of Emily Rose’

(I didn’t actually want to see this movie but I made myself watch the video just to see how she dealt with it.)

She was religious. So have I been. She would see people’s faces changing, I would see them change enough. According to the real story of her (and I just discovered this particular fact yesterday, when I read it) that she was lead to believe by the evil spirits that she had to do penance – something lke that. I didn’t understand about the ‘atonement’ as Christians believe in, so they got me there. I always thought that I had to pay for my own sins – somehow I didn’t understand that principle or whatever you call it, and they milked it for all it was worth. They had me pretty much turned into a cross between a monk and a nun. I fasted every day for eleven and a half years.

Every dream they sent me, I believed in. They wouldn’t let me have any sleep or nap during the daytime, for years. They said that if I took a nap or rested just for a bit, or ate during the day, my daughter would be gang raped repeatedly, and I would be too, plus I would be murdered and my ‘people’ as they put it, would be destroyed. They showed me all that and how it would be done. I was too afraid to go against their instructions, but remember, I thought it was God telling me all that, but it wasn’t. It was the evil spirits.

In her true story, she felt a heaviness on her chest if I’m to remember correctly and some type of paralysis if I can remember. In my youth, I used to at times experience not being able to move whilst in bed. I would try to call out, but couldn’t move my jaw. I found it so difficult to wake up and every time I thought I had woken up, I realised I was still asleep. I would eventually get up from my nightmare and go and see my parents. Eating something would help me to come out of it, but one time it was difficult getting up the stairs to my parents bedroom. I had to grab the rail and try to pull myself up. That time I went into my parents room and couldn’t control myself as I swung my head around and moved around the room. I just wanted my parents to help me. Eventually, of course, it subsided.

The evil spirits did also move the upper half of my body alot in latter years and did speak jibberish, mostly, through my mouth when nobody was around. These days, they still do that, but less. While I write this, they shake my head every now and then, and as usual, every time I kneel to pray, many times they still shake and move as much as possible, the top half of my body. It gets annoying, but I just keep on praying.

There’s alot I’ve left out, but I know that I never had it as bad as Annaliese Michel. She had an absolute extreme case. I never went to my death, although in the end they were leading up to me trying to commit suicide and I guess I was just waiting for their instructions. To cut a long story short, two main things happened to me in the end to cause me to begin realising that I had been duped for years by only the evil spirits. They started going a bit crazy themselves in the end and went overboard with their expectations of me – long story, but things were starting to get ‘unbelievable’ even for me. The second thing is, because of my anger at their expectations of me (never ceasing – 24 hours a day for years) I went against their advice on one thing and looked into something. I got a shock to find out the truth about that ‘something’ and asked myself: ‘Why did God lie to me?’ Remember, in the end, they told me that ‘I’ was God and that there were many Gods and multiple individuals of every person in many other dimensions. The story is complex and a bit confusing.

From there on in, it was like a woolen jumper coming undone. Yes, I’m now using the analogy of a woolen jumper coming undone so that you can understand quite quickly what I am trying to explain. I was so thankful to realise that yes, there was that same righteous, sensible and strong God out there that I had come to learn about as I was growing up. What a relief.

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]]> By: Corey http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38958 Corey Mon, 01 Nov 2010 08:13:08 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38958 You are all 100% correct in no matter what you think this experience is. For many years now I too have ran through the myriad of possibilities for what I was dealing with. I started out with government mind control testing then aliens then just another life form in a close dimension and of course demons. I tested and tested and tested them and everytime I could come up with enough inconsistency in thier stories that I could not believe in the "game" anymore. Here is the one and only thing I know is true about these things. "IT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU THINK IT IS" and they are exactly who you think they are. No matter if it be demons, ghosts, god or the devil or anything or anyone. All that these things want is to be HEARD and to control your actions in this reality as much as possible because... When you physically act out or react to what the say, That in turn MAKES THEM REAL." because they are interacting in this reality through you. My own magic cure to help control them is too label them as NOTHING and to believe NOTHING they say. I treat them as" just for entertainment purposes only" This helps because I am athiest although for a while I used to thank them for making me believe in God, But I fell back on my atheism because when tested I could not get them to do anything besides be a voice in my head and of course mess with my dreams. They have shown that it is most likely my subconcous that created other personalities as a seperate entitiy inside the same body. Of course they know everything you know and try to steal thoughts before you realize your having them to claim they were not your ideas but rather theirs and can give you pains. It's part of your brain that we know NOTHING about. Try not to give them power over you, laugh at the things that usually would scare you. Don't give them any authority over your decisions that affect this reality and they simply won't be real. Stick to it, I know it's a 24-7 job to deal with this but try not to let them control what you do unless it's just for your entertainment purposes and not for theirs. NOTHING thats all they get. And thats Exactly what I know they are. NOTHING. ;) You are all 100% correct in no matter what you think this experience is. For many years now I too have ran through the myriad of possibilities for what I was dealing with. I started out with government mind control testing then aliens then just another life form in a close dimension and of course demons. I tested and tested and tested them and everytime I could come up with enough inconsistency in thier stories that I could not believe in the “game” anymore. Here is the one and only thing I know is true about these things.
“IT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU THINK IT IS” and they are exactly who you think they are.
No matter if it be demons, ghosts, god or the devil or anything or anyone. All that these things want is to be HEARD and to control your actions in this reality as much as possible because… When you physically act out or react to what the say, That in turn MAKES THEM REAL.” because they are interacting in this reality through you.
My own magic cure to help control them is too label them as NOTHING and to believe NOTHING they say. I treat them as” just for entertainment purposes only” This helps because I am athiest although for a while I used to thank them for making me believe in God, But I fell back on my atheism because when tested I could not get them to do anything besides be a voice in my head and of course mess with my dreams. They have shown that it is most likely my subconcous that created other personalities as a seperate entitiy inside the same body. Of course they know everything you know and try to steal thoughts before you realize your having them to claim they were not your ideas but rather theirs and can give you pains. It’s part of your brain that we know NOTHING about. Try not to give them power over you, laugh at the things that usually would scare you. Don’t give them any authority over your decisions that affect this reality and they simply won’t be real. Stick to it, I know it’s a 24-7 job to deal with this but try not to let them control what you do unless it’s just for your entertainment purposes and not for theirs. NOTHING thats all they get.
And thats Exactly what I know they are. NOTHING. ;)

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]]> By: Annao http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38946 Annao Mon, 01 Nov 2010 03:19:09 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38946 Uh carri. I'm not disputing a spiritual realm. Over 97% of the world believe in a higher power so I don't think those of us in that percentile will dispute that. My argument is how easily people blame the devil. Hey people make decisions whether due to mental illness or just having no heart. Remember since a lot of you people claim to be religious, god did give us free will, yes?? People r bad bottom-line so stop blaming the devil. Jeez get real. If someone else sane on her wants to make a comment then i respond Uh carri. I’m not disputing a spiritual realm. Over 97% of the world believe in a higher power so I don’t think those of us in that percentile will dispute that. My argument is how easily people blame the devil. Hey people make decisions whether due to mental illness or just having no heart. Remember since a lot of you people claim to be religious, god did give us free will, yes?? People r bad bottom-line so stop blaming the devil. Jeez get real. If someone else sane on her wants to make a comment then i respond

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]]> By: Annao http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38944 Annao Mon, 01 Nov 2010 03:13:31 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38944 Shelley-- you made your arguments based on movies. You just said it yourself. You make your arguments on opinions not facts. Sorry I'm wasting my time on talking to you. Your arguments are poor. I think most sane educated people would agree with me. Shelley– you made your arguments based on movies. You just said it yourself.

You make your arguments on opinions not facts. Sorry I’m wasting my time on talking to you. Your arguments are poor. I think most sane educated people would agree with me.

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]]> By: Shelley http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38906 Shelley Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:16:34 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38906 Well, Annao, I see this is where you're coming from. You're right. Humans must and should take responsibility for their actions and the evil they do. It might surprise you to know that whenever I hear about a murderer getting off because it's been said that they're insane or something - I never agree with it and believe always, yes, always, that the person shouldn't actually even be allowed to claim insanity. I don't think I've ever believed in any case where someone was 'insane' when they committed a crime or evil. I have never understood it why the insanity pleas are actually taken seriously. I don't even believe in what they call 'a crime of passion'. I don't care how upset they were. Murder is murder. Well, Annao, I see this is where you’re coming from. You’re right. Humans must and should take responsibility for their actions and the evil they do. It might surprise you to know that whenever I hear about a murderer getting off because it’s been said that they’re insane or something – I never agree with it and believe always, yes, always, that the person shouldn’t actually even be allowed to claim insanity. I don’t think I’ve ever believed in any case where someone was ‘insane’ when they committed a crime or evil. I have never understood it why the insanity pleas are actually taken seriously. I don’t even believe in what they call ‘a crime of passion’. I don’t care how upset they were. Murder is murder.

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]]> By: Shelley http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38905 Shelley Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:07:03 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38905 You actually weren't there to witness everything that happened to Anneliese Michel. Neither was I. Even if the 'Mary' part of that movie isn't true, didn't you write above 'who was supposedly demon possessed?' Do you personally think she was possessed or not? Basing my opinions on movies, again? I give the movies as examples only. Chill out. You say: 'some of these people here are afflected with God knows what...' Yeah. That's right. He does know. And he allows it to happen. Bad things happen to good people. Worse things could happen than this. We know that. You're calling me a 'sensationalist?' I think you're actually making a mountain out of a mould. We're already used to this crap happening. You probably haven't understood it yet, that's probably why you're so angry. I think you'd be better off reading some kind of scientific medical postings. You might feel right at home there. Everything is so cut and dried and psychosis or mental illness is eagerly used to label things that they either don't believe or can't explain. I'm sure some people do have mental illnesses, but that's where the discernment comes in, doesn't it. Movie claims? You're a nut. This stuff has been happening to me for 42 years. I'm just learning to deal with it and tolerate it. Don't add to it, man. Mmmm - and you say: 'not realizing the consequences of what it can do (to) people who are tormented?' This site is a site where people can say what has happened to them. Once again, it's nice to be acknowledged when so many around you don't want to hear about it. So what is it now that YOU want me to do, Annao? Shut up? You actually weren’t there to witness everything that happened to Anneliese Michel. Neither was I. Even if the ‘Mary’ part of that movie isn’t true, didn’t you write above ‘who was supposedly demon possessed?’ Do you personally think she was possessed or not? Basing my opinions on movies, again? I give the movies as examples only. Chill out. You say: ‘some of these people here are afflected with God knows what…’ Yeah. That’s right. He does know. And he allows it to happen. Bad things happen to good people. Worse things could happen than this. We know that.

You’re calling me a ‘sensationalist?’ I think you’re actually making a mountain out of a mould. We’re already used to this crap happening. You probably haven’t understood it yet, that’s probably why you’re so angry. I think you’d be better off reading some kind of scientific medical postings. You might feel right at home there. Everything is so cut and dried and psychosis or mental illness is eagerly used to label things that they either don’t believe or can’t explain. I’m sure some people do have mental illnesses, but that’s where the discernment comes in, doesn’t it.

Movie claims? You’re a nut. This stuff has been happening to me for 42 years. I’m just learning to deal with it and tolerate it. Don’t add to it, man. Mmmm – and you say: ‘not realizing the consequences of what it can do (to) people who are tormented?’ This site is a site where people can say what has happened to them. Once again, it’s nice to be acknowledged when so many around you don’t want to hear about it. So what is it now that YOU want me to do, Annao? Shut up?

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]]> By: Shelley http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38904 Shelley Sun, 31 Oct 2010 10:44:26 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38904 Surprising as this may seem to you, my 'opinions' are not based on Hollywood movies. I didn't do 'my research' on Nash, I just observed what happened in the movie. It bares all of the hallmarks of evil spirit torment and deceipt. I can't help it if this is not so obvious to you. He may have been a genius - I'm not disagreeing with that, but I seriously doubt whether he was schizophrenic and I would tell him what I thought if I ever had the chance to meet him, only to basically let him know that I'm sure he's quite normal and was just being deceived and run around the bush by evil spirits. The man does not have a mental illness. I do not believe he had schizophrenia. Now, my dear, the Emily Rose example. I know that that movie is based on a true story. Yes, I know of the girl. I looked into it and saw some footage of her. You said 'supposedly demon possessed?' In the actual footage, it looked and sounded like she was really possessed. What is your actual claim also in regards to 'The Exorcist?' Again you say, 'supposed demonic possession.' We can cut to the chase. You don't even believe in 'demonic possession.' That's the real issue here. Why have you even bothered reading what we've written? It's called acknowledgement. Something we don't get alot of and you're not exactly helping. Are you? You wrote: "Do I believe in demonic possession? I think it’s very possible." Need I say no more? Surprising as this may seem to you, my ‘opinions’ are not based on Hollywood movies. I didn’t do ‘my research’ on Nash, I just observed what happened in the movie. It bares all of the hallmarks of evil spirit torment and deceipt. I can’t help it if this is not so obvious to you. He may have been a genius – I’m not disagreeing with that, but I seriously doubt whether he was schizophrenic and I would tell him what I thought if I ever had the chance to meet him, only to basically let him know that I’m sure he’s quite normal and was just being deceived and run around the bush by evil spirits. The man does not have a mental illness. I do not believe he had schizophrenia.

Now, my dear, the Emily Rose example. I know that that movie is based on a true story. Yes, I know of the girl. I looked into it and saw some footage of her. You said ‘supposedly demon possessed?’ In the actual footage, it looked and sounded like she was really possessed. What is your actual claim also in regards to ‘The Exorcist?’ Again you say, ‘supposed demonic possession.’ We can cut to the chase. You don’t even believe in ‘demonic possession.’ That’s the real issue here. Why have you even bothered reading what we’ve written? It’s called acknowledgement. Something we don’t get alot of and you’re not exactly helping. Are you?

You wrote: “Do I believe in demonic possession? I think it’s very possible.”

Need I say no more?

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]]> By: Carri http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38862 Carri Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:11:58 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38862 I agree that humans are responsible for their own behavior. But their are a lot of mental ill people who are sick with a Spiritual Affliction. I lived with a mental ill person all my life. I also had evil people after me, I was in a foster home. I know that unless you haven't seen the spiritual dimension and heard the devil's footsteps, it would be hard to understand. I also have a real good jobs. I work for the UAW and have an education. I am not ignorant. I just have seen a lot for my time on this earth. I agree that humans are responsible for their own behavior. But their are a lot of mental ill people who are sick with a Spiritual Affliction. I lived with a mental ill person all my life. I also had evil people after me, I was in a foster home. I know that unless you haven’t seen the spiritual dimension and heard the devil’s footsteps, it would be hard to understand. I also have a real good jobs. I work for the UAW and have an education. I am not ignorant. I just have seen a lot for my time on this earth.

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]]> By: Annao http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38796 Annao Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:56:08 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38796 Thanks. I agree completely. A lot of people seem to want to be possessed by a demonic force. They may say otherwise but it's the words and phrases they use that make me think otherwise. I consider myself to be a reasonably intelligent person, educated, and yes there are things out there we can't explain. But most of it we can. Secondly I just can't stand people making an opinion or argument. Based Ina movie. It's ridiculous. Thanks.
I agree completely. A lot of people seem to want to be possessed by a demonic force. They may say otherwise but it’s the words and phrases they use that make me think otherwise.
I consider myself to be a reasonably intelligent person, educated, and yes there are things out there we can’t explain. But most of it we can. Secondly I just can’t stand people making an opinion or argument. Based Ina movie. It’s ridiculous.

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]]> By: Annao http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38753 Annao Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:06:02 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38753 Carri-- I'm a doctor who has worked in NYC's largest hospital. Trust me I know about evil and atrocities committed by humanity. I've seen abused children by relatives. I sutured a woman's face back together after her abusive bf cut up her face. I've rotated through psych wards. I'm sure demons exist somewhere. But the atrocities I've seen, the murder victims I've seen. Has been all committed by human beings not by spirits. I don't doubt demons exist. But humans must take response for the actions they commit! Carri– I’m a doctor who has worked in NYC’s largest hospital. Trust me I know about evil and atrocities committed by humanity. I’ve seen abused children by relatives. I sutured a woman’s face back together after her abusive bf cut up her face. I’ve rotated through psych wards. I’m sure demons exist somewhere. But the atrocities I’ve seen, the murder victims I’ve seen. Has been all committed by human beings not by spirits. I don’t doubt demons exist. But humans must take response for the actions they commit!

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]]> By: Carri http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38745 Carri Thu, 28 Oct 2010 20:46:48 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38745 to the unbelievers like the kind skeptic, you are a rational person. you have not been raised by a mentally ill mother who was tormented all her life by demons and cruelty from her abusing husband. But the Devil and Demons are real. You haven't broken into the spirit realm yet. Try doing a seance in a haunted location. use rodding in a haunted graveyard. Rent a haunted property. sleep in a haunted location for weeks at a time. You will break through into the ghost realm. Try visiting a state mental institution l Thats where real evil resides. Rapists and pedifiles frequent. I have been to State Mental wards visiting my mother. That is where real evil exists. visit the local jail were most demonic individuals reside. That is where gang members are caught up in the system. You possibly had a rational life educated by normal parents. But explore non believer because real evil exists in this world and what these people are saying is true. to the unbelievers like the kind skeptic, you are a rational person. you have not been raised by a mentally ill mother who was tormented all her life by demons and cruelty from her abusing husband. But the Devil and Demons are real. You haven’t broken into the spirit realm yet. Try doing a seance in a haunted location. use rodding in a haunted graveyard. Rent a haunted property. sleep in a haunted location for weeks at a time. You will break through into the ghost realm. Try visiting a state mental institution l Thats where real evil resides. Rapists and pedifiles frequent. I have been to State Mental wards visiting my mother. That is where real evil exists. visit the local jail were most demonic individuals reside. That is where gang members are caught up in the system. You possibly had a rational life educated by normal parents. But explore non believer because real evil exists in this world and what these people are saying is true.

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]]> By: Kind Skeptic http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38729 Kind Skeptic Thu, 28 Oct 2010 16:07:26 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38729 It is refreshing to read a voice of reason! We monitor numerous sites like these as I lead a research team out of a University that studies paranormal events vs. explainable emotional/mental-illness driven situations. I comment from time-to-time because it seems that more often than not, the contributors *want* it to be some type of demonic possession and would rather embrace "the devil is in me" or "the devil made me do it" than seek out other rationals that would prove to be more positive. Unfortunately, this approach pomulgates all kinds of misinformation and often allows imaginations to run amok, causing more harm than help. I am always encouraged to see a posting such as yours. While possessions may very well be real, I am challenged when I read through these comments and see the "tsunami" building of misinformation and/or conjecture. It is refreshing to read a voice of reason! We monitor numerous sites like these as I lead a research team out of a University that studies paranormal events vs. explainable emotional/mental-illness driven situations. I comment from time-to-time because it seems that more often than not, the contributors *want* it to be some type of demonic possession and would rather embrace “the devil is in me” or “the devil made me do it” than seek out other rationals that would prove to be more positive. Unfortunately, this approach pomulgates all kinds of misinformation and often allows imaginations to run amok, causing more harm than help.

I am always encouraged to see a posting such as yours. While possessions may very well be real, I am challenged when I read through these comments and see the “tsunami” building of misinformation and/or conjecture.

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]]> By: Caretaker http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38723 Caretaker Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:43:16 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38723 Here is the True Story of the Excorcism of Emily Rose http://www.trueghosttales.com/stories/excorcism-emily-rose.php Here is the True Story of the Excorcism of Emily Rose http://www.trueghosttales.com/stories/excorcism-emily-rose.php

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]]> By: Annao http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38719 Annao Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:58:19 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38719 Shelley--When you do research on the Michel case, you will know there is no mention of Mary. Don't base your opinions on movies. Some of these people here are afflicted with God knows what and your sensationalist, movie claims don't make things better for them. To everyone else, sorry for posting so much but it aggravates me when I read these type of comments from people who don't do their research not realizing the consequences of what it can do people who are tormented. Shelley–When you do research on the Michel case, you will know there is no mention of Mary. Don’t base your opinions on movies. Some of these people here are afflicted with God knows what and your sensationalist, movie claims don’t make things better for them. To everyone else, sorry for posting so much but it aggravates me when I read these type of comments from people who don’t do their research not realizing the consequences of what it can do people who are tormented.

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]]> By: Annao http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38718 Annao Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:52:53 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38718 I think demonic possession is very possible. Many years ago, people were supposedly afflicted with possession. In nearly all these cases, these people were afflicted with mental illness. Today, I do believe that still holds true. A great majority of cases are some sort of mental illness. Possession is possible but very unlikely. I think demonic possession is very possible. Many years ago, people were supposedly afflicted with possession. In nearly all these cases, these people were afflicted with mental illness. Today, I do believe that still holds true. A great majority of cases are some sort of mental illness. Possession is possible but very unlikely.

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]]> By: Annao http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38716 Annao Thu, 28 Oct 2010 13:44:52 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38716 Shelley-- First of all, your opinions are solely based on Hollywood movies... Secondly, if you do research on Nash the genius schizophrenic by the way, he did not have these so-called demons. The man had a mental illness, he had schizophrenia, which tormented him. Your Emily rose example is horrid! Come on do you know who that movie is very loosely based on??? No I'm sure you don't. The so-called afflicted was annelisse Michel, a young German girl who was supposedly demon possessed in the 70s right around the time "the exorcist" came out in theatres! Another movie very loosely based on another case of supposed demonic possession in 1949 of a young boy. Do your research before you start quoting movies when 9/10s of the movie is not even true. Do I believe in demonic possession? I think it's very possible Shelley–

First of all, your opinions are solely based on Hollywood movies…

Secondly, if you do research on Nash the genius schizophrenic by the way, he did not have these so-called demons. The man had a mental illness, he had schizophrenia, which tormented him.

Your Emily rose example is horrid! Come on do you know who that movie is very loosely based on??? No I’m sure you don’t. The so-called afflicted was annelisse Michel, a young German girl who was supposedly demon possessed in the 70s right around the time “the exorcist” came out in theatres! Another movie very loosely based on another case of supposed demonic possession in 1949 of a young boy. Do your research before you start quoting movies when 9/10s of the movie is not even true.

Do I believe in demonic possession? I think it’s very possible

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]]> By: Shelley http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38693 Shelley Thu, 28 Oct 2010 07:48:30 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38693 Well done, Carri. You have figured it out. There are two main reasons why they bug us. One, they have access to our dimension and two, they've got nothing better to do. So they gave him that information, eh? I know that the evil spirits totally can appear like aliens. They are experts at disguise. They can even make you believe you feel the 'vibes' of some dead relative nearby. They're very convincing. They even were able to show me a few excerpts of my future, near and months away. I don't know how far into the future they can see, though. Perhaps they are only able to see so far. They'll use the 'somebody died there' scenario case to 'haunt' a place. They know you'll find out sooner or later that a person died there. Those people who died won't be the ones who are 'coming back' to haunt you or any other place. The evil spirits use it and can appear like the deceased. They are experts at speaking and looking like anyone. I think alot of people experience things like this but perhaps they don't talk about it. I personally believe that the man who was portrayed in "A Beautiful Mind", the movie, was having evil spirits converse with him. I seriously doubt whether he was skitsophrenic or whatever other label they would like to put on him. What happened to him is 'classic evil spirit.' He might be relieved to know that, actually. Poor thing. The movie that was based on a true story, 'The Exorcism of Emily Rose' - now that was a really extreme case where they obviously were allowed to take her to her death. Mary, the mother of Jesus had nothing to do with it. She was deceived right up 'til her death. Slowly but surely, we all wake up from the unseen 'cult'. I know someone who is still under their strong influence but what can I say to her? She won't believe me if I tell her the real source of all her revelations. She thinks that God and angels relay information and messages to her. Didn't I? It's like trying to de-brainwash someone. Short of taking them out onto a field in the middle of nowhere and shaking them and trying to tell them what's been happening to them - who can say if it will make a difference. Well done Carri! I was quite amazed you figured all that out! Well done, Carri.

You have figured it out. There are two main reasons why they bug us. One, they have access to our dimension and two, they’ve got nothing better to do.

So they gave him that information, eh? I know that the evil spirits totally can appear like aliens. They are experts at disguise. They can even make you believe you feel the ‘vibes’ of some dead relative nearby. They’re very convincing. They even were able to show me a few excerpts of my future, near and months away. I don’t know how far into the future they can see, though. Perhaps they are only able to see so far.

They’ll use the ‘somebody died there’ scenario case to ‘haunt’ a place. They know you’ll find out sooner or later that a person died there. Those people who died won’t be the ones who are ‘coming back’ to haunt you or any other place. The evil spirits use it and can appear like the deceased. They are experts at speaking and looking like anyone. I think alot of people experience things like this but perhaps they don’t talk about it. I personally believe that the man who was portrayed in “A Beautiful Mind”, the movie, was having evil spirits converse with him. I seriously doubt whether he was skitsophrenic or whatever other label they would like to put on him. What happened to him is ‘classic evil spirit.’ He might be relieved to know that, actually. Poor thing. The movie that was based on a true story, ‘The Exorcism of Emily Rose’ – now that was a really extreme case where they obviously were allowed to take her to her death. Mary, the mother of Jesus had nothing to do with it. She was deceived right up ’til her death.

Slowly but surely, we all wake up from the unseen ‘cult’. I know someone who is still under their strong influence but what can I say to her? She won’t believe me if I tell her the real source of all her revelations. She thinks that God and angels relay information and messages to her. Didn’t I? It’s like trying to de-brainwash someone. Short of taking them out onto a field in the middle of nowhere and shaking them and trying to tell them what’s been happening to them – who can say if it will make a difference.

Well done Carri! I was quite amazed you figured all that out!

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]]> By: Carri http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38650 Carri Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:55:56 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38650 to all I really believe after reading these stories that demons have been following me and my family for generations. My stepfather talked about aliens. The aliens gave my step father secret information to make fuel cells. My step father made fuel cells for Nasa and General Motors, they were hydrogen fuel cells. He would go on about other dimensions. Aliens visiting him. My mother would see the devil at times and see flashing lights. she would cause the winds to change it's speed and intensity. I always thought they were mentally ill or eccentric until I experienced a haunting after my brother died in 1984 that is the first time I had experience a real paranormal experience. I was at a low time in my life and that is possibly when the enemy tried to torment me with noises and moans from the other side. . then our home was haunted. then in 2001 my mobile home became haunted because a old woman had died in the mobile home before I bought it. I heard noises and saw demons then, I saw a ghost girl in my home after she died of the flu at the school where my little daughter attended. but reading your stories I know all these are just demons attacking me and my family. to all I really believe after reading these stories that demons have been following me and my family for generations. My stepfather talked about aliens. The aliens gave my step father secret information to make fuel cells. My step father made fuel cells for Nasa and General Motors, they were hydrogen fuel cells. He would go on about other dimensions. Aliens visiting him. My mother would see the devil at times and see flashing lights. she would cause the winds to change it’s speed and intensity. I always thought they were mentally ill or eccentric until I experienced a haunting after my brother died in 1984 that is the first time I had experience a real paranormal experience. I was at a low time in my life and that is possibly when the enemy tried to torment me with noises and moans from the other side. . then our home was haunted. then in 2001 my mobile home became haunted because a old woman had died in the mobile home before I bought it. I heard noises and saw demons then, I saw a ghost girl in my home after she died of the flu at the school where my little daughter attended. but reading your stories I know all these are just demons attacking me and my family.

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]]> By: Shelley http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38622 Shelley Wed, 27 Oct 2010 03:01:34 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38622 You've done well. They love to play 'both sides' of the coin. Good cop, bad cop. All of my dreams are still totally concocted and they shake my head and neck around frequently when no-one's around. Thankfully it mostly doesn't happen in public. I had a website too, about aliens. I took it down of course eventually, but there I was, trying to convince the world about the truth of aliens. I don't believe in aliens now. The evil spirits can make themselves look and sound like literally anybody and anything. Family have told me to 'ignore' it and it will go away but that hasn't worked. I think 'they' want to ignore it so 'it' will go away. It would be like someone slapping them on the face every now and then and me then telling them to ignore that. I wonder if they could. You sound like your doing really well now. You’ve done well. They love to play ‘both sides’ of the coin. Good cop, bad cop. All of my dreams are still totally concocted and they shake my head and neck around frequently when no-one’s around. Thankfully it mostly doesn’t happen in public. I had a website too, about aliens. I took it down of course eventually, but there I was, trying to convince the world about the truth of aliens. I don’t believe in aliens now. The evil spirits can make themselves look and sound like literally anybody and anything. Family have told me to ‘ignore’ it and it will go away but that hasn’t worked. I think ‘they’ want to ignore it so ‘it’ will go away. It would be like someone slapping them on the face every now and then and me then telling them to ignore that. I wonder if they could. You sound like your doing really well now.

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]]> By: Lex http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/deceived-and-tormented-by-demons/#comment-38598 Lex Tue, 26 Oct 2010 20:37:43 +0000 http://www.trueghosttales.com/paranormal/?p=1918#comment-38598 Something similar happened to me once a couple of years ago. I started withdrawing from God and partying, and eventually I started having these crazy ideas about God and Jesus and quantum physics. I thought that Christianity had got close to the truth, and God was sending me answers to correct the worlds mistakes and ignorance when it came to God and his Son. Everyday I'd have a new idea that seemed to not even come from me. It would just come out of my fingers into my blog. People started saying they were worried about me, but I ignored them. I was also experiencing taunting and and heavy breaths on my neck and hearing something whisper my name when I was alone. I thought it was just because Satan was angry that I was revealing Godsent truths. I switched churches to an Universal Utilitarian church, and they supported me. I now realize that that church is a very confused and dark place. Every day I started getting more and more depressed from the taunting, and everytime I opened my Bible it would open to verses about being punished for sins. One night I had a terrifying experience that I just posted here and will hopefully show up soon. Anyway, after praying to make it go away that night, I felt God's presence for the first time in over a year, and I immediately knew what huge mistakes I'd been making with my blasphemous blog posts. I broke down and prayed all night for forgiveness and to this day I've felt like a real Christian with a relationship with our almighty Father. Something similar happened to me once a couple of years ago. I started withdrawing from God and partying, and eventually I started having these crazy ideas about God and Jesus and quantum physics. I thought that Christianity had got close to the truth, and God was sending me answers to correct the worlds mistakes and ignorance when it came to God and his Son. Everyday I’d have a new idea that seemed to not even come from me. It would just come out of my fingers into my blog. People started saying they were worried about me, but I ignored them. I was also experiencing taunting and and heavy breaths on my neck and hearing something whisper my name when I was alone. I thought it was just because Satan was angry that I was revealing Godsent truths. I switched churches to an Universal Utilitarian church, and they supported me. I now realize that that church is a very confused and dark place. Every day I started getting more and more depressed from the taunting, and everytime I opened my Bible it would open to verses about being punished for sins. One night I had a terrifying experience that I just posted here and will hopefully show up soon. Anyway, after praying to make it go away that night, I felt God’s presence for the first time in over a year, and I immediately knew what huge mistakes I’d been making with my blasphemous blog posts. I broke down and prayed all night for forgiveness and to this day I’ve felt like a real Christian with a relationship with our almighty Father.

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